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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:16 AM

So Valley was only good because of Mind Control the whole time?

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:17 AM

I don't know who you are talking to, but I don't beleive I voiced an opinion. But the whole point of creating a topic would (I assume) is to discuss if the card is currently viable. Saying people can't express opinions is idiotic. Also sort of reminds me of Xerodynamic trying to support Des Lacooda awhile ago.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:18 AM

View PostTenken, on 04 November 2009 - 08:12 PM, said:

Don't self-proclaim pro, which appears to be where you plan to go with this...


I'm not. Just saying Blackwings aint my only deck. Also got Little City, Morphos, and a cheap ass Macro Monarch

View PostTwitter, on 04 November 2009 - 08:14 PM, said:

Guys omfg who are you to say if its good or not? :l I'll beast all of you with Valley.


Go right ahead. I'm sure the scrub wont learn his lesson
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:22 AM

View PostTenken, on 05 November 2009 - 02:17 AM, said:

I don't know who you are talking to, but I don't beleive I voiced an opinion. But the whole point of creating a topic would (I assume) is to discuss if the card is currently viable. Saying people can't express opinions is idiotic. Also sort of reminds me of Xerodynamic trying to support Des Lacooda awhile ago.


If your opinion is "this sucks, bad cause Mind Control r at 1 hur hur" then gtfo my topic.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:25 AM

1. Did I ever say that was my opinion?
2. Why even have this topic if you just want everyone to sheep and say its good?
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:27 AM

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:29 AM

View PostPlato, on 04 November 2009 - 08:27 PM, said:

I enjoy trolls. Don't you?


Very much.


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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:29 AM

View PostTenken, on 04 November 2009 - 09:25 PM, said:

1. Did I ever say that was my opinion?
2. Why even have this topic if you just want everyone to sheep and say its good?


None of anything said was aimed at you, it was at the Kill4nia(or w/e) kid =/
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:32 AM

View PostXerodynamicz, on 04 November 2009 - 08:29 PM, said:

Very much.


Agreed and I wonder just how I dont laugh at that sig of yours.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:41 AM

View PostTenken, on 05 November 2009 - 02:25 AM, said:

1. Did I ever say that was my opinion?
2. Why even have this topic if you just want everyone to sheep and say its good?


1. Was I talking to you?
2. Elaborate as to why its good or bad. Man, you illiterate or something?
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:43 AM

Not a bad card, just a vulnerable card.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:52 AM

To be completely honest, I find that the most useful effect of Cyber Valley is the PWWB effect.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:56 AM

View Postcharlie bear, on 04 November 2009 - 08:52 PM, said:

To be completely honest, I find that the most useful effect of Cyber Valley is the PWWB effect.


Enlighten me please on that one. I think you are referring to effect three, but I wont be assuming.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:58 AM

Remove Valley and an in-hand card to place one in-graveyard card on top of your deck.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:59 AM

Anyone who says this card is bad, is bad.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 03:01 AM

It's very versatile, but like I said, it's also very vulnerable and good players will see that you can't really rely on this card for...well, much of anything outside of say, a machine duplication Cyber Valley turbo deck.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 03:01 AM

View Postcharlie bear, on 04 November 2009 - 08:58 PM, said:

Remove Valley and an in-hand card to place one in-graveyard card on top of your deck.


That is what I thought. My Morphtronics get more use from the two draw effects thanks to dupe and Celfon.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 03:03 AM

Well yeah, you're using dupe. That creates an entirely different game when using Valley.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 03:09 AM

View Postcharlie bear, on 04 November 2009 - 09:03 PM, said:

Well yeah, you're using dupe. That creates an entirely different game when using Valley.


Still doesnt change the fact that Valley is an amazing card when you actually know how to use them. I dont think I have decked my set more than once or twice
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 03:11 AM

It's not knowing how to use it or not really. It's just being a decent player, and the same can be said for any card. lol

It's more knowing when to use it based on reads you've made concerning your opponent's hand based on the game state and their graveyard etc.
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