[rbadgley]

what happens when you have 2 or more dupe frogs on the field at a time?

dupe frog, level 2, water att., aqua type, effect: [100/2000]
this card's name is treated as 'des frog' while it is face up on the field. your opponent cannot select another monster as an attack target. when this card is sent from the field to the graveyard, you can add 1 "frog" monster except "dupe frog" or "frog the jam" from your deck or graveyared to your hand.

will they create an indestructable barrier? whats the judging on that?

[Val]

Much like with Marauding Captain, it makes the most sense to me for your opponent to only be able to attack if they're attacking directly with something like Raging Flame Sprite, because she doesn't need to attack monsters.

Edit - I'll ask one of the Yugi'mods to move this to the right place, because ruling questions will get more attention here.

This post has been edited by Val: 11 October 2009 - 03:55 AM

[Steve]

Moved to Rulings.

[rbadgley]

awesome. thats what i thought thanks

[Mecha]

Im not exactly 100% sure but Im sure they would attack a dupe frog then have to attack the second one. I dont think it would make a inpenatrable defensive block. I think they would have to attack one dupe frog (doesnt matter witch one) then attack the other. But I may not be correct. Which brings me to a question of the same manor. Say one monster is Dupe Frog and one is another monster with the same (Your opponent mus attack this card) effect. Would that follow under my suggestion of killone then the other or would th only way around these be something like a man eater bug effect to release the lockdownish effect?

[Mecha]

Sorry my compy double posted.

This post has been edited by Mecha: 02 November 2009 - 09:45 PM

[Val]

First, lets remember that monsters aren't allowed/forced to perform additional attacks unless something such as the effect of Asura Priest or Twin-Sword Marauder specifically say that they can. Keeping this & our current situation in mind, there's no way for me to declare an attack with my Battle Ox against monster that it shouldn't be able to attack in the first place, destroy it by battle, and then suddenly ignore the fact that it already attacked during this battle phase in order for me to have it attack again. This may or may not have happened in the anime, but as far as the cardgame is concerned... Its not logical to any degree.

If you're talking about a replay being triggered, such as if my opponent special summons a 2nd Dupe Frog with Call of The Haunted after my attack targets was declared, then the situation would still follow the above mentality because I shouldn't be able to attack either one, let alone both during the same battle phase.

While this can get a little more tricky when cards like Ring of Magnetism, Dreamsprite & Shift get involved, think of the Dupe Frog situation like this. You're holding a sword (your attacking monster) in front of a very tall enemy (the defending player), and only have enough strength for one attack. They have 2 magical water shields (the Dupe Frogs), each of which is whimsically directing your sword away from the other possible target. Due to this form of deceptive sorcery, you can't hold your blade steady enough to focus on either one, which means that you'd need to strike your opponent from affair using wooden arrows (something like Inaba White Rabbit that allowed to attack directly) instead, in order to attack them at all.

[Mecha]

That actually makes a lot of sense. Lets say I have something like Mataza the zapper or Hyabusa knight? They can attack twice, would I be able to destroy both dupe frogs and move on with my battle phase or as you stated would I basically be undecisive and have to rely on direct attacks and spells/traps to clear the field?


Over all dupe frog seems like a fairly stable lock down/defense imo so far.

[Val]

Even if the monster can normally attack more than once, it still has to perform those attacks separately, because that's the way Yugioh was designed. As such, they would still suffer from the same gamestate "lock" that everything else that has to select monsters as attack targets, and shouldn't be able to declare an attack against either Dupe Frog.

Edit - Inb4FoxFire

This post has been edited by Val: 03 November 2009 - 12:46 AM

[Mecha]

thnx for the clear up